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What does it mean to take communion in an unworthy manner

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Having once been a fallen away Catholic, I can answer this.

The number one reason is because they still believe in the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Due to today's secular, modern, Protestant dominated, American society they might not understand or agree with Catholic teachings. But the reason they have not become Protestants is because they do believe in the Catholic understanding of transubstantiation.

When my dad left the Catholic Church to become a Baptist, I finally asked him if he believed in transubstantiation. He didn't know what it meant, so when I explained that we Catholics believe that the bread and wine actually become the Body and Blood of Christ (our Mystery of Faith) via the Holy Spirit... my dad said, "No, it's symbolic. Priests don't have the power to make that kind of miracle."

Therefore, I said to my dad... "OK, you are officially not a Catholic anymore."

To me... if they believe in transubstantiation, then they are still Catholic. They might not be a good Catholic, or a devout Catholic, or a practicing Catholic or an educated Catholic; but they still believe in the Blessed Sacrament. Therefore, they are still Catholic.

Instead of trying to kick them out, keep in mind that they most likely have NOT received a proper Catholic education. I know I didn't.

Of course, then there are some secular Catholics who view being Catholic in the same regard as atheist Jews consider themselves to still be Jewish. They view being Catholic as a culture/people/idenity. However, unlike the Atheist Jews who do not believe in God, secular Catholics still believe in God and most likely in the Eucharist. All former Catholics who are now Atheists that I know will say they "used to be Catholic." They do not consider themselves to Catholic anymore. And most who do not believe in the Blessed Sacrament will not identify themselves as Catholic either.

So in closing, I really think most times it comes down to believing in the Eucharist. It's the one thing that ALL Catholics (conservative, liberal, orthodox, secular, non-practicing, Eastern, Western, etc) all have in common.

And finally to answer your question, "God perhaps keeps these people around in hopes that someone will evangelize them?" ----- the answer is YES.

God bless!

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Having once been a fallen away Catholic, I can answer this.

The number one reason is because they still believe in the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Due to today's secular, modern, Protestant dominated, American society they might not understand or agree with Catholic teachings. But the reason they have not become Protestants is because they do believe in the Catholic understanding of transubstantiation.

When my dad left the Catholic Church to become a Baptist, I finally asked him if he believed in transubstantiation. He didn't know what it meant, so when I explained that we Catholics believe that the bread and wine actually become the Body and Blood of Christ (our Mystery of Faith) via the Holy Spirit... my dad said, "No, it's symbolic. Priests don't have the power to make that kind of miracle."

Therefore, I said to my dad... "OK, you are officially not a Catholic anymore."

To me... if they believe in transubstantiation, then they are still Catholic. They might not be a good Catholic or a devout Catholic, or a practicing Catholic or an uneducated Catholic, but they still believe in the Blessed Sacrament. Therefore, they are still Catholic.

Instead of trying to kick them out, keep in mind that they most likely have NOT receive a proper Catholic education. I know I didn't.

Of course, then there are some secular Catholics who view being Catholic in the same regard as atheist Jews consider themselves to still be Jewish. They view being Catholic as a culture/people/idenity. However, unlike the Atheist Jews who do not believe in God, secular Catholics still believe in God and most likely in the Eucharist. All former Catholics who are not Atheist that I know will say they "used to be Catholic" but do not consider themselves to Catholic anymore. And most who do not believe in the Blessed Sacrament will not identify themselves as Catholic.

So in closing, I really think for most it comes down to believing in the Eucharist. It's the one thing that ALL Catholics (conservative, liberal, secular, non-practicing, Eastern, Western, etc) all have in common.

God bless!
Great post! I think you're on to something regarding the belief in the Eucharist.
God bless you as well.
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